tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post5778352073408242821..comments2023-09-16T06:46:00.406-07:00Comments on Moral Decline: Christmas Was Not Originally A Christian HolidayShattered Paradigmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15108535580841006211noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-89613505424766676662008-12-23T12:17:00.000-08:002008-12-23T12:17:00.000-08:00As a journalist-turned-blogger, this is old news t...As a journalist-turned-blogger, this is old news to me, as I wrote my own, more comprehensive article in 2005 on "The Pagan Roots of Christmas" -- from the perspective of a modern Pagan, namely me. I've posted an updated version of my article every Yuletide since. <BR/><BR/>You can read the 2008 edition here at: http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/2008/12/pagan-roots-of-christmas-2008-edition.html<BR/><BR/>A Blessed Yule to you all, and a Happy New Year.Skeeter Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153448201343021545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-32364840450500496042008-11-24T06:55:00.000-08:002008-11-24T06:55:00.000-08:00astoundingthe majority of responses are PROOF that...astounding<BR/>the majority of responses are PROOF that the fall of man is eminent<BR/>the massive lack of morality and sensibility.<BR/><BR/>Your Religion- self importance- you chose to see your self as more important than creation itself. You choose to ignore any data that may counter your theology. You are a BRICK. <BR/><BR/>Fact, whether an external god exists or not, the fact that people think there is has resulted in the constitution of the usa, abolition of slavery, and so on, Why bash them? Let them be, to continue to provide the culture that allows everyone to speak freely, <BR/>Why do the folks benefiting form the Christian bought freedom feel so strongly about bashing in such a hateful way?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15249086546407348249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-9100098418971744502008-11-11T10:28:00.000-08:002008-11-11T10:28:00.000-08:00I've known about religions usurping pagan holidays...I've known about religions usurping pagan holidays. I've taught my child that Christmas is a mixing of two different celebrations. Unfortunately the religious name is used to cover both events. I have a respect for religion and an understand about the history of conquering nations taking over cultures but I get angry when some churches get pissed because I am doing Rudolph or Santa and not Jesus. I just want them to butt out. It's them that called the pagan part Christmas, not the pagans. They are the ones responsible for this controversy!Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03797298427790034910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-82383590228042396692008-11-07T12:47:00.000-08:002008-11-07T12:47:00.000-08:00Just a quick note to inform you that this article ...Just a quick note to inform you that this article was included in our November Blog Carnival of Christian Family Information Exchange. Please feel free to continue posting often and more than one at a time. (3 AND UNDER)also please inform your family and friends and let them know we are always looking for good Christian articles, recipes, stories or anything of interest to Christians.<BR/><BR/>Thank you<BR/>Theresa Twogood, Executive Director<BR/>OLIN e-Publishing Company<BR/>* http://olinepublishing Blogspot.com<BR/>http://olin.tkRoy2Goodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03509760782899775072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-69827189894881171822008-11-06T03:51:00.000-08:002008-11-06T03:51:00.000-08:00Linked at http://mydiyhometips.com/2008/11/05/blog...Linked at http://mydiyhometips.com/2008/11/05/blog-carnival-edition-no-10-everything-home/<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your submissions<BR/>RosemaryLadyluckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18284569843079811501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-47475933977086086662008-11-05T23:54:00.000-08:002008-11-05T23:54:00.000-08:00It was nice merry Christmas to youChristmas Direct...It was nice merry Christmas to you<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.altiusdirectory.com/" REL="nofollow">Christmas Directory</A><BR/><BR/>In this directory you will find more information on Christmas related articles like<BR/>Christmas activities, cakes, gifts, flowers, ClipArt’s, cookies, crafts, eve, games, garland, Christmas in Germany, new York, Christmas ornaments, recipes, knitted stockings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-59661304835993515492008-10-28T14:16:00.000-07:002008-10-28T14:16:00.000-07:00Wow, what a great website you have here. It is nic...Wow, what a great website you have here. It is nice to see actual fresh content for a change. From one webmaster to another, I congratulate you for the effort you must have put in. I will definitely recommend your website to my readers which is highly related to your theme. Keep up the great work on your website!<BR/><BR/>Chek my article if you like;<BR/><A HREF="http://www.trifter.com/Practical-Travel/Heaven-on-the-Earth-Five-Fantastic-Beaches.272423" REL="nofollow">Heaven on the Earth: Five Fantastic Beaches</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-32185972628873088032008-10-24T17:14:00.000-07:002008-10-24T17:14:00.000-07:001. Stop spamming me. 2. Your "it would be too cold...1. Stop spamming me. <BR/><BR/>2. Your "it would be too cold" theory doesn't really work - Jesus was born in the MIDDLE EAST.Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13896199518903630509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-24316415244931464852008-10-21T04:49:00.000-07:002008-10-21T04:49:00.000-07:00Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is ver...Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is very interesting, congratulations :-). I will add in my blogroll =)THANX FOR MAKING SUCH A COOL BLOG <BR/><BR/><BR/>Let me share with you a great resource,<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.christmaswebguide.com" REL="nofollow">Christmas Web guide</A> <BR/><BR/>They really know what they are doing. If you are in need of New Christmas Ideas Or Just Want To know how to make Your Christmas memorable Just Go And Check out thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-55118560942641980612008-10-11T08:13:00.000-07:002008-10-11T08:13:00.000-07:00www.zeitgeistmovie.comGo.Watch.CONSIDER with OPEN ...www.zeitgeistmovie.com<BR/><BR/>Go.<BR/><BR/>Watch.<BR/><BR/>CONSIDER with OPEN MIND.WriterWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01300236898425396046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-59360221144631378442008-10-09T18:55:00.000-07:002008-10-09T18:55:00.000-07:00Kudos to Stephen K!Kudos to Stephen K!JoJohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421382291793964211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-5575249530993366722008-10-09T16:46:00.000-07:002008-10-09T16:46:00.000-07:00Christianity given how old it is comparatively tow...Christianity given how old it is comparatively toward pagan and Egyptology had a plentiful source of material to twist and make it's own. The number of direct comparisons to ancient Egypt are staggering. As it was mentioned previously, Zeitgeist is the documentary to see that will provide verifiable evidence of this. It's really no shock, that Christianity is just a dumbed down hallmark 2 hour special removing the threat of female power and simplifying ancient astrology to the point that the very thing that it apposed "idol worship" was doing it with Mary the mother of Jesus. Catholics claim that Mary is not worshipped, however she appears predominately in the artwork. But catholics won't have you believe that Mary is more represented as she is a woman. What would the the world be without the male ego and it's fragility to continue to Mascagni's and call it gods divinity. FYI I'm not a woman, or pro feminist, just telling it like it is, I mean we have over 10,000 years of written history from all over the world to support this.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07133211672404137980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-86623878987965049342008-10-09T13:56:00.000-07:002008-10-09T13:56:00.000-07:00No, I said Christmas has always been Christian. Di...No, I said Christmas has always been Christian. Dies Natalis Solis Invicti was what was before Christmas and that wasn't Christian. So to put it in your terms let me answer a question of yours. <BR/><BR/>So, before someone called walking really fast "running" everyone in creation maxed out a trot?<BR/><BR/>No, before someone called walking really fast "running" there was a different word for it.<BR/><BR/>So, before someone called Dec. 25th "Christmas" everyone in creation thought there was no holiday?<BR/><BR/>No, before someone called Dec. 25th "Christmas" everyone in the Roman empire celebrated Dies Natalis Solis Invicti<BR/><BR/>Before there was Christmas there was Dies Natalis Solis Invicti. <BR/><BR/>Here are some points for you.<BR/><BR/>1. Christmas is a Christian holiday. <BR/><BR/>2. Before Christmas was Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, which was not Christian. <BR/><BR/>3. The Pope started Christmas as a Christian holiday.<BR/><BR/><BR/>4. If someone starts something as a Christian holiday, it is impossible for it to have ever been not a Christian holiday.<BR/><BR/>And even though you are whining about my fix for the title, the title that I came up with is 100% more accurate than the title used.<BR/><BR/>Though the holiday before Christmas was not Christian, Christmas has always been a Christian holiday.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598267769989016579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-49663459220759608522008-10-09T11:31:00.000-07:002008-10-09T11:31:00.000-07:00"Actually, Christmas has ALWAYS been a Christian h..."Actually, Christmas has ALWAYS been a Christian holiday"<BR/><BR/>Your argument is silly, at best. To be really nitpicky, you would have to ammend your 'correction' to: "Christmas used to be called something else, but the early church subjegated most of the practices into 'Christmas'".<BR/><BR/>So, before someone called walking really fast "running" everyone in creation maxed out a trot? No...they ran, just because someone hadn't called it that yet does not change the underlying actions. <BR/><BR/>My family has a monthly tradition. We have no name for this, so obviously there is no tradition. And if next month, we decide to call it "Family Night" then we never, ever got together as a family for an evening before that moment that I came up with the term?<BR/><BR/>I could call your argument "arguing symantics" but I think that is even being a little too generous. <BR/><BR/>So, to clarify this for the author...before Pope X said "Christmas" there was no annual wintertime celebration, at the end of December that had trappings like a decorated evergreen tree, mistletoe, stockings, fat faries (was he a "saint" at this point or not? can't remember when the word "saint" was coined...) delivering presents around the world...Gh0sthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383731342380471322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-14538606582506192332008-10-09T10:28:00.000-07:002008-10-09T10:28:00.000-07:00Actually, Christmas has ALWAYS been a Christian ho...Actually, Christmas has ALWAYS been a Christian holiday, the fact that it is on the same date as when a Roman has absolutely nothing to do with its religious affiliation. Dies Natalis Solis Invicti was the Roman holiday on Dec. 25th, that is a Roman holiday, and it is not called "Christmas". Therefore your entire statement, sir, is wrong. If you had said, "The date Christmas is on is not when Jesus was born, but is actually when the Romans used to have a holiday" your statement would have been correct. But since you said "Christmas was not originally a christian holiday" you have opened yourself to endless humiliation. Christmas has always been a Christian holiday, the DAY used to have a different name, which was Roman. But as you said, "In the year 350 A.D., Pope Julius I declared that "Christ’s birth" would be celebrated on December 25th from then on." So the Pope created Christmas right then. Therefore it is impossible for Christmas to have been a Roman holiday as it had just been created with Christian roots.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598267769989016579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-78258877773826862472008-10-09T09:08:00.000-07:002008-10-09T09:08:00.000-07:00Jesus has a rebelious teenager who was dissatisfie...Jesus has a rebelious teenager who was dissatisfied with Middle-Eastern life. He journeyed to India, learned yogic/Hindu philosophy, and returned to the Middle East to spread his learnings. Most tenets of "Christianity" mirror those of Hinduism. The rulers at the time felt threatened by his increasing power and killed him. End of story. Jesus was a teacher. Jesus was a man with a beautiful message. Look inside yourself and you will find the same message.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189508128568386738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-81468520222829989342008-10-09T08:57:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:57:00.000-07:00Imran ....You are wrong.There are as many Gods as ...Imran ....<BR/>You are wrong.<BR/>There are as many Gods as there are humans.<BR/>We all carry the seeds of creation inside us ( our DNA ).We are all Gods. <BR/>The concept of "One God" is imposible.Bahrameradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601491515048095799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-70799418464358715032008-10-09T08:36:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:36:00.000-07:00Wow, can't wait till the author learns where Easte...Wow, can't wait till the author learns where Easter eggs come from...chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12420332043868772282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-26756004320849190642008-10-09T08:33:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:33:00.000-07:00This blog in general? Ought to refer to the "Intel...This blog in general? Ought to refer to the "Intellectual Collapse Within America".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-38272271620465172552008-10-09T08:32:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:32:00.000-07:00Paganism defined:"one of a people or community obs...Paganism defined:<BR/>"one of a people or community observing a polytheistic (multiple gods) religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks."<BR/><BR/>The word of God was sent down to Jesus - Jesus was a messenger of God. Read the Old Testament - find me one line where Jesus said he was God or that he was the son of God. Jesus never claimed to be God - his message was changed. He told people to be "Christ-like" not to worship Christ. <BR/><BR/>"Christians" changed the word of God - not only did they pray to God, but they took Jesus as their lord and then added the Holy Ghost to make an unexplainable, Divne Trinity. That is three - not one, but three. Three gods = polytheism = paganism. <BR/><BR/>It is not surprise that they celebrate pagan holidays - the whole concept of Christianity is based on paganism (i.e. praying to multiple Gods through various rituals, and idolatry (the cross) and images of Jesus and Mary.)<BR/><BR/>FYI - The symbol of the Cross comes from the original Zodiac Calendar - it was derived from the cross in the middle of the circular image of the calendar. <BR/><BR/>It all links back to ancient pagan rituals. <BR/><BR/>There is only ONE GOD, Jesus is not the Lord - Jesus was the messenger of the Lord, as was Abraham, Noah, Solomon, David, Moses etc.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613714686883884935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-68692636158888379352008-10-09T06:40:00.000-07:002008-10-09T06:40:00.000-07:00Jesus was born on the 19th of September 0000, at a...Jesus was born on the 19th of September 0000, at about 05:12 hours. 1.3 kilos.<BR/><BR/>He was a healthy boy, showing no complications, despite the insalubrious nature of his birth. <BR/>(We think his early exposure to bacteria, farm animals and foreigners reinforced his immune system.)<BR/><BR/>He grew up to be an average child,<BR/>not talented for carpentry, with a pronounced attitude problem. <BR/><BR/>He has parental issues, thinking his father is not his real father.<BR/><BR/>We are worried about Jesus' involvement in local gangs - specifically the "Disciples" gang he hangs with, that seem hellbent on challenging the authority of Roman law and the local sheriff.<BR/><BR/>In conclusion, although Jesus is a good boy, we worry he might be led astray by unsavoury elements in the Galileen gang, that might lead him to serious judicial problems.<BR/><BR/> Yours,<BR/>Ponty Pilay, <BR/> Youth Rehabilitation Officer,<BR/> Bethleem.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10189191037514304100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-37153700322449408342008-10-09T06:20:00.000-07:002008-10-09T06:20:00.000-07:00Fact-checking denies that Julius I was trying to p...Fact-checking denies that Julius I was trying to placate pagans. In fact, the dispute was not whether to make Saturnalia the day of Christmas (which would have resulted in Christmas being on either Dec. 17, or Dec. 23, or perhaps the entire week of Dec 17-23, but certainly NOT Dec. 25). The dispute was whether or not the Epiphany was the date of Jesus' birth. Check out some history on the dispute, who was involved, and the dates: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm<BR/><BR/>And the whole Yule tie-in? It's as unlikely that the Bishop of Rome would have given much thought to the celebration dates of pagans in the far north who had little to do with Rome. It would be like the President of the United States asking the Inuit when the federal election should be held.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-51641092920412619712008-10-09T06:11:00.000-07:002008-10-09T06:11:00.000-07:00Well did you know that Easter is named after a pag...Well did you know that Easter is named after a pagan month and or goddess. The anglo saxon world was full of events and names that have now become part of christain life. That is why it is so easy for us anglo-saxons to return to paganism without so much as batting an eyelid.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15979753326249912294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-65050982015919344752008-10-09T05:07:00.000-07:002008-10-09T05:07:00.000-07:00jesus was not born at all, just as god does not ex...jesus was not born at all, just as god does not exist!bolutihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324460930355305630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6569471912255632604.post-6374246869951159542008-10-09T03:18:00.000-07:002008-10-09T03:18:00.000-07:00PAGANISM? wtf is that? that's the bloody syncretis...PAGANISM? wtf is that? that's the bloody syncretism to end all syncretisms. So what if Christianity is just some other version of paganism? In the big farking scope of things...does it matter? Probably not...but I guess some people are so bored with themselves its important to find the most annoying ways possible to engage people to keep themselves entertained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com